president talk about congress and frustrated with congress. no one in those articles and no one is going to defend congress. we know their approval rating is way worse than his. but what about this point? ultimately, the buck stops with you, dude. >> you know, i got to say, erin, even senator pat toomey said today, the republican who was behind the background check bill, he said people voted against it because they did not want to be seen as helping the president. this congress -- these republicans, erin, are provably and historically obstructionist. they just are. and i'm sorry, whatever maury maureen dowd wrote, and i love maureen dowd, but we don't live in an aaron sorkin liberal fantasy where sorkin gets to write everybody's lines, including the republicans. >> is there a point here, though? because i'm starting to wonder, look, you can blame him or not blame him, it kind of doesn't matter, but to dean's point, if he can't get anything done, what is the point of second term? >> well, first of all, there is a lot that he has gotten done. an